{"id":26097,"date":"2018-11-25T23:01:51","date_gmt":"2018-11-26T05:01:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.davidmcelroy.org\/?p=26097"},"modified":"2019-08-26T01:28:30","modified_gmt":"2019-08-26T06:28:30","slug":"how-do-we-know-when-to-give-up-persistence-might-be-a-futile-choice","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/davidmcelroy.org\/?p=26097","title":{"rendered":"How do we know when to quit? Persistence may be futile choice"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.davidmcelroy.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/When-should-you-give-up.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-26098\" src=\"http:\/\/www.davidmcelroy.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/When-should-you-give-up.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"460\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/davidmcelroy.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/When-should-you-give-up.jpg 460w, https:\/\/davidmcelroy.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/When-should-you-give-up-300x196.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 460px) 100vw, 460px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Inspirational quotes often give very bad advice.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, if you want advice, I can find multiple pieces of folk wisdom or quotes from famous people to share with you \u2014 almost none of which would agree with the rest. I can give you folk wisdom about never giving up <em>or<\/em> I can give you folk wisdom about cutting your losses before they get worse. <em>Which one is good advice?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Why is so much of our collective folk wisdom contradictory? And why does following some of this wisdom not seem to help us?<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m thinking about this tonight because I ran across a quote which was attributed to Winston Churchill: <em>&#8220;Never give up on something that you can&#8217;t go a day without thinking about.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Is that good advice? I have no idea. I guess if you don&#8217;t give up on the thing and your persistence brings it to pass, it was great advice. But what if you spend years persisting &#8212; passing up other opportunities &#8212; in order to stick with something? If you end up with nothing, it was terrible advice and it leaves your miserable.<\/p>\n<p><!--more-->I wrestle with this issue all the time. I used to be too prone to giving up quickly. Then I read a lot about persistence and examples of people getting the things they wanted because they persisted, so I became painfully persistent when I truly wanted something.<\/p>\n<p>Another reason I think about it so frequently today is that something which I wrote on the subject six years ago mocks me today. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.davidmcelroy.org\/?p=9964\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">I wrote an article<\/a> making the case for not giving up on what you truly want. It features an excerpt from Napoleon Hill&#8217;s book, &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2FDSKrS\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Think and Grow Rich<\/a>,&#8221; which tells the story of a couple of prospectors looking for gold who quit digging &#8212; and gave up &#8212; when they were only three feet away from the vein of gold which someone else would find after they gave up and left.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a great story. The graphic I chose for the piece illustrates the lesson quite well. Lots of people preach this lesson. In fact, New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton somehow found my article and had a copy placed in the lockers of each of his players when they were going through some adversity a few years back. (It was reported at the time by the New Orleans Times-Picayune and a New Orleans radio station, although I can&#8217;t find the link right now.)<\/p>\n<p>But when I see people randomly finding that article every day &#8212; it&#8217;s been read by 47 people so far today, for instance &#8212; I sometimes want to find them and say, <em>&#8220;Hey, maybe that was bad advice. Maybe you really ought to give up.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Let me go back to the alleged Churchill quote. He says I shouldn&#8217;t give up on something I can&#8217;t go a day without thinking about? What if I can&#8217;t go an hour without thinking of this thing I want? Does that make it an even better idea? Or does it just mean I&#8217;m doomed to torture myself obsessing over something I can&#8217;t have &#8212; something I can&#8217;t force myself to give up on?<\/p>\n<p>I wish I could just say that enough faith and desire will bring us what we need. There are a lot of smart people who teach that faith and intense desire will eventually bring us what our heart wants. <em>But what if they&#8217;re wrong?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Pat Terry had a piece of wisdom in a song he wrote back in 1984. In &#8220;Truth is Like a Sword,&#8221; he wrote, <em>&#8220;Demand too much and you may end up empty-handed, demand too little and regret is your reward.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>That line haunts me. When it comes to love, maybe I&#8217;ve demanded too much by loving in the way my heart wants to love. I&#8217;ve ended up empty-handed so far. I&#8217;ve tried to do the opposite, too. I told you recently about a woman I dated a couple of years ago which was really an example of expecting too little &#8212; and regret is all I felt about every moment I spent with her.<\/p>\n<p>So how do we know when to persist? And how do we know when to give up?<\/p>\n<p>I often look at the bits and pieces of wisdom that are embodied in quotes \u2014 even the ones that I use at times \u2014 and I wonder if they&#8217;re wisdom or if they&#8217;re just our way of saying, <em>&#8220;See? Someone else agrees with me!&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>If I want to persist &#8212; if my heart is desperate to hold onto hope that I can have what I need &#8212; isn&#8217;t it natural to gravitate to wisdom which agrees with doing what I want to do?\u00a0I&#8217;m not sure that wisdom from the past is anything more than a catalog of words we choose from to justify what we want to do.<\/p>\n<p>I can&#8217;t decide whether I regret writing that article six years ago urging people not to give up. At its core, I think it&#8217;s good advice &#8212; for most people and in most situations. I think we&#8217;re far too prone to give up easily. I think we&#8217;re far too willing to walk away at the first bit of adversity.<\/p>\n<p>But what if we&#8217;re asking for too much &#8212; something which we can&#8217;t have which we need &#8212; and we destroy ourselves by ending up with nothing? Is it worth destroying ourselves in order to prove a point about persistence?<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t have the answers to these questions. I obsess about them frequently lately. I wish I could answer them. But sometimes it doesn&#8217;t really matter what we consciously decide. So maybe it&#8217;s a moot point.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe there are times when a heart locks in on something it needs &#8212; and refuses to accept a substitute or a second choice. Maybe there are times when it&#8217;s not a matter of choice anymore.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe the heart is determined to persist &#8212; despite what the brain&#8217;s reason has to say &#8212; even if that means ending up empty-handed and empty-hearted. I&#8217;m not sure I have a conscious choice, because my heart won&#8217;t let me do anything else.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Inspirational quotes often give very bad advice. In fact, if you want advice, I can find multiple pieces of folk wisdom or quotes from famous people to share with you \u2014 almost none of which would agree with the rest. 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